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Location: Pennsylvania Registered: 16 December 2010 Posts: 31 | posted
This statement confuses me. I thought SS Solution was much stronger than SS Cream. |
Location: FL Registered: 04 March 2010 Posts: 20 | posted
Bumping as I think this is a great question!This message has been edited. Last edited by: SkinBiologyWebmaster, |
Location: Pennsylvania Registered: 16 December 2010 Posts: 31 | posted Is SS Cream the same strength as SS Solution? If you look at the product strength guide the SS Cream is in the mild area. I have been under the impression that the SS Solution is much stronger. According to a chart that Dr. Pickart posted recently, they have the same amount of copper in them. I would appreciate any help you can give me with this question. |
 Location: Maine Registered: 30 March 2008 Posts: 2846 | posted
Smiling, I too was also under the impression that SS Cream was further down the chain than SS Sol? But now I see that they are equal in CP strength according to the recent chart. How are they equal with the cream also containing GHK which the Sol does not?... GHK being milder. Have you increased the amount of 2nd gen CPs in the cream to match the solution? If that is the case, wouldn't that knock this out of the "mild range" into the "moderate zone"? Perhaps SB can clarify – just trying to get a better handle on the Skin Signals products which I thought were 2 different animals. Is there still more collagen & elastin peptides in the cream or they now equal as well? Just trying to get a handle on these 2 which have confused many of us from the beginning...  ... Love SS Sol on my face & the Cream around my eyes & neck – they are both winners in my book!...Love the tightening!...  |
 Location: USA Registered: 20 October 2009 Posts: 559 | posted Too odd, since Dr P told me that SS cream was for maintenance, and SS solution was for remodeling. Maybe they changed the formula a bit... |
 Location: Skin Biology Registered: 15 September 2004 Posts: 7065 | posted
As we get feedback from out clients, we modify the formulas, so the information changes. But copper peptides are influenced also by the other ingredients. We have more reports of strong remodeling for the Skin Signals Solution but the Skin Signals Cream may work better for dryer skin plus tightening and firming. But as usual, you have to find what works best for your purposes. |
Location: Indiana Registered: 06 February 2010 Posts: 2118 | posted
The Skin Signals Serum was almost a trial balloon. When it launched no one was sure how or if it would work. The Skin Signals Cream was a next gen, new and improved product based on what was learned from the Serum. The new and improved Cream was formulated with more collagen and elastin fragments and Super GHK was added. Will the Serum be receiving these "updates"? Have there been any increases in the amount of collagen and elastin fragments in the serum. Seems like if the original Serum formula still is in use. It may be time for an update. |
Location: Pennsylvania Registered: 16 December 2010 Posts: 31 | posted
I guess this means the SS Cream has the same amount of copper peptides as SS Solution, but it is not as strong. This is due to the GHK, collagen and elastin fragments in the SS Cream tempering the strength. So, the SS Cream is not as strong of a remodeler. I hope this is a correct assumption. I don't need strong CPs, I think the SS Cream is just perfect for what I want to achieve. |
Location: Indiana Registered: 06 February 2010 Posts: 2118 | posted Thanks Smiling. I think you may have nailed it. Still wonder if SB plans on doing any updates, or has done any updates, on the SS Serum. Most bypass the SS Serum for remodeling and go straight to the Super CP serum. Which is generally what Skin Biology's recommends. Like you I would also prefer a milder product if it gives maximum tightening. Something to give and maintain maximum tightening once all the remodeling is done. |
Location: Maine Registered: 30 March 2008 Posts: 2846 | posted Smiling, that is how I interpreted it as well. Yes, by all means stick with Skin Signals Cream if you don't have scars. It is strong enough for general anti-aging. Even though it is a relatively new CP, there have been some reports of fantastic results using SS Cream & a mild hydroxy. If you are working on any expression lines, Tri-Red Cream is great for spot treating. Maxx, I think SS Sol is still the same. It seems to offer both stronger skin remodeling & tightening just as it is. I still get no effects from TTT. I think that is because my long-term use of CPs has tightened my skin & that happened before either of the Skin Signals were born. |
Location: Indiana Registered: 06 February 2010 Posts: 2118 | posted Stoney, I guess what I am basically wondering is if the the SS Serum might need to be updated a little. Since SS Serum was an experiment, based on a theory that came out of Eastern Europe. A trial balloon of sort, that ended up working very well. Much was learned from the SS Serum feedback and Dr. Pickart incorporated what he learned. Into the new SS Cream which has increased tightening and firming effects. So it might be time for a retool on the original SS serum formula. As I think most who use it are aiming for maximum skin tightening. |
 Location: Skin Biology in Bellevue, Washington - USA Registered: 22 June 2004 Posts: 4865 | posted We will be keeping everyone abreast of the adjustments very shortly. But we cannot over emphasize the fact that we highly value your feedback and comments. In fact your honest reviews are essential to the success of our new products. Any adjustments or refinements in formulations are really done with the goal of what will best help clients reach their skincare goals more effectively. Through the years, this "adjusting" has worked exceptionally well to hone in on formulas that are near perfect. Although it does take time. More information will be coming on this... Best Wishes, -Skin Biology |
Location: Skin Biology Registered: 15 September 2004 Posts: 7065 | posted
The ideas came from the research in the Czech Republic and France. I just added the copper to the elastin and collagen peptides. |
Location: Portugal Registered: 30 May 2011 Posts: 1 | posted
Hello Dr, I use the CP serum for about two months and I´am having an excellent effect in improving my skin. However, I have a question: I'm using the CP in the morning, and was wondering, can I use after the moisturizer Dr. Perricone: Face Finishing Moisturizer, which contains Alpha Lipoic Acid, DMAE, but also some Vitamin C-Ester (which is not the main component). I read in the site, that for pure Vitamin C, there should be 12 hours between the use of CP and the pure Vitamin C. Thank you in advance and sorry for my english, it is not my language !! Kátia |
 Location: Floriduh Registered: 10 March 2012 Posts: 17 | posted "My main goal is to repair leathery/fine-line mess and re-tone the general elasticity and plumpness of my skin. " Amen sister. And remove some age spots/hyperpigmentation. Maxx and Stoney you two have given me so much info today reading this forum. Thank you so much. |
Location: Indiana Registered: 06 February 2010 Posts: 2118 | posted Thank you  Stoney is hiding in Guatemala fearing a possible tax evasion rap. I will pass it on via our elaborate system of Monkey Telegraph. On your other posts. Hospice two thumbs up I kind of laughed when I read the thread about people looking 20 years younger then their age. 45 year olds looking like 25 year old etc. But I do have a patient right now who is also in their early 90's who looks better then most of our patients in their 60's. Not a single wrinkle or line. Never seen anything like it.Professional peels. I started those 2 months before I started skin Biology. Done by a professional, those can really jump start the remodeling process. Here is a table of what to expect with different concentrations of acid i.e. Free Acid Value: http://www.dianayvonne.com/category/16.aboutpeels/ |
Location: Floriduh Registered: 10 March 2012 Posts: 17 | posted I'm having good success with the peels and this skin care. SO glad I found this stuff!! You are a care giver? I love the 90 year olds, best stories ever! |
Location: Indiana Registered: 06 February 2010 Posts: 2118 | posted
The whole family. I'm a Registered Nurse, Wife Nurse Practitioner, Daughter CNA, Son Medical Assistant |
Location: Virginia Registered: 14 April 2012 Posts: 1 | posted Help! I've used the Skin Signals Cream. It's gone and I want to order something else. I'm 65, have skin as dry as the Sahara, sun damage, mild redness on my nose, skin sensitive. I've lost more elasticity in the last year than in the last 10. Could I still do some kind of chemical peel to get started. I loved the Emu oil and would get more. What about CP Serum next?This message has been edited. Last edited by: SkinBiologyWebmaster, |
Location: Skin Biology Registered: 15 September 2004 Posts: 7065 | posted The peels do help. Our hydroxy acids are not peels but LacSal could be considered a very mild peel. |
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