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Kat
Location: Iceland
Registered: 24 November 2004
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I'm interested in eating healthier and was wondering if anyone has read "Dr. Nicholas Perricone's Programme" or knows of other good books by different authors. I really want a good book that focuses on diet (and has some recepies), esp. low-glycemic.

Deb,

I'm really hoping to get some feedback from you here Smilerlol You also mentioned "The Perricone Prescription" and I was wondering whether you were talking about the Personal Journal or the 28-day Programme.

Kat Smiler
Kat
Location: Iceland
Registered: 24 November 2004
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Hi Deb,

Is the Zone type diet what is also referred to as the Paleotech diet? Not that I know what either entails. Smiler

I googled Oz Garcia and I think I might get one of his books as well as Perricone's. It's probably a good place to start.

I actually thought Perricone also promoted low glycemic diet. I guess I am wrong there. I've been searching the internet for information on low glycemic diet, but I just don't have the time to sit in front of the computer for hours and hours trying to find a good source (School, work and final essay). I just really would love to find some good books so I didn't have to spend so much time on the internet. But then I just don't know which ones are any good.

I don't lean towards vegetarianism. I do like different kinds of beans (lentils, kidney beans etc.), but I eat almost everything (fish, meat, veggies, some grains etc.). I want to keep clear of dairy products and products with gluten as much as possible. The problem is it's so convenient to eat that stuff when you're busy. Since I don't want to eat a lot of it, I sometimes just "forget" to eat at all during the day and of course my energy level is very low as a result of that. I just don't know what to eat between breakfast and dinner. LOL I really have to set up a good routine as soon as possible!!

Maybe the books by Oz Garcia and Perricone are enough to start with. But if you could recommend some good cookbooks as well, that would be really appreciated!! Big Grin

Thank you so much for responding to my questions. This is something I really have to get in order as soon as possible!!

Thanks a lot Big Grin !!

Kat Smiler
Location: USA
Registered: 30 November 2004
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A good group to check on low carb/low glycemic diets is the newsgroup:
alt.support.diet.low-carb

They post a FAQ for beginners daily. it's excellent.

If you don't know how to read newsgroups an easy way to get there is to go to www.dejanews.com and click on advanced search.

Susan
Kat
Location: Iceland
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Hi Smiler

There is something wrong with my notification. I only get them once in a while. Frowner I've never even gotten notification about anyone responding to my post hereFrowner Oh well...

Deb I just read some really good reviews about the "The Low Carb Gourmet". The problem is the stovetop burner. I've never even heard of that Smiler lol That is something I would have to purchase abroad if I want to use it. My friends are starting to make fun of all my special needs. Having to order skincare products and vitamins from abroad. Smiler ..and now maybe something called a stovetop burner Smiler lol Still I might just buy it anyway Smiler

If you remember any other books with yummy recipes please do tell Big Grin

I think the Zone diet is something I would like to look into. Still I doubt I will follow it completely. I am going to eat red meat, esp. the lamb we have here which is absolutely delicious, and I am also probably going to keep on eating a little bit of butter and egg yolks. Other than that, it actually sounds like something I would like to follow.

I found some books by Ann Louise Gittleman who also seems to promote the Zone Diet. What do you think of her? I think I might buy one or two of her books. At least "Get the Sugar Out"

Susan, thanks for the links. I will look into them for sure. Still I'm not going to count carbs. I just want to find a healthy diet I can follow with good ease. I don't want to put too much work into this Smiler lol I'm such a lazy butt.

Any good advice about what to eat in between meals?

I'm getting a little excited here. I so need to get my diet in order Smiler LOL

Kat Big Grin
Registered: 05 January 2005
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Kat--I did a pretty strict Zone diet for about four months one time...I felt FANTASTIC!! But don't you know, I actually got tired of chewing all that dang food, and that's one reason I went off of it??!! Seemed like I was always eating something. There's so much food to eat in a day, and if you're doing it right you get to the point where (I guess, this is what Sears says is happening, anyway) your insulin level is so stable you just don't get hungry any more. So you're basically eating (and thus chewing) because you should, not because you really want it. Interesting phenomenon, that. Quite a departure for me not to want food! Wink And I literally went for days sometimes without getting really hungry.

But the Zone is also is kind of a pain in the patootie, which is one reason I haven't gone back on it very strictly. You generally have to kind of plan your day, especially if you're not going to be around any really healthy places to eat. I sometimes needed two insulated lunch sacks if I was going to be on campus all day. All the planning gets to be a drag. It requires a lot of discipline.

If you're interested in the Zone I'd recommend "Enter the Zone" and "A Week in the Zone". The in-depth discussions in "Enter" about unstable insulin and all the negative physiology it provokes are very, very interesting. "A Week in the Zone" give you a good idea of what you might want to eat as well as some recipes and stuff.

AmyLou Smiler
Kat
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Oh man AmyLou, that doesn't sound really good to me Smiler LOL But then I doubt I will go on a strict Zone diet anyway. I like to keep things in a routine, esp. when I'm really busy and this sounds like the kind of diet I would like. I think it's very likely a good base to build on.

Kat Smiler
Registered: 05 January 2005
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Kat--the Zone is indeed a good base to build on. And you don't have to be as anal as I was about it during those four months...it was just another one of my "let's do this and see what happens" experiments that I do with diets and supplements (and lately, hyrdroxy acids, CP's, etc), stuff like that. What happened was I burnt myself out by being so rigid, and I shouldn't have done that. There's much easier ways of doing the Zone. That's the way I often am, though...jump into something with both feet and then burn out on the one-track mindset. Character flaw I'm constantly trying to work on. Wink

I did lose 40lbs, though, which took a loooooong time to come back.
Kat
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Hi Amy Smiler

When I read some reviews for the books you mentioned I came across the link www.drsears.com where you could see an example of how a day in the Zone looked like. Oh man, you were not exagerating when you talked about how much you had to eat during the day!! LOL I would not have time for anything else but preparing my food and eat it, if I were to follow the diet completely. I'm such a slow eater Smiler

Too bad to hear about your 40 lbs coming back Eeker

Kat Smiler
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Kat--I eat slow, too. That was part of the problem. Big Grin
Kat
Location: Iceland
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LOL Deb...I meant "The Gourmet Prescription". I looked at reviews the evening before I posted my respond and of course I forgot the name, looked at your post and saw the name and decided that was it without reading the text Smiler LOL ehemmm.. Do I have to own a stovetop burner to use the cookbook? How do you like Anne's recipes?

Kat Smiler
Kat
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Hi Deb,

I really like to try new things so I'll probably try this out Smiler LOL Does the book also give information about woodchips? (which ones are good for the recipes etc.)

What kind of unusual ingredients would I need? We do have quite a good selection of imported goods right now. Still I'm not sure how good it really is since I don't have the comparison. It's not really that many years since we only had apples, oranges, bananas, pears and only the most traditional vegetables. LOL

Can't wait to finish my exams and get some money to spend Big Grin

Kat Smiler
Location: Canada
Registered: 24 May 2005
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Perricone is a big rip off, his website sells his "Lipid Replinisher " for $195 U.S.

Emu Oil S is like 14.99.

Perricone's books teach you how to PREVENT skin wrinikling and skin damage, but it doesn't tell you anything about repairing already damaged skin(which 99% of the people on this planet suffer from so you'd think it had a minor importance.)
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quote:
Originally posted by Roke:
Perricone is a big rip off, his website sells his "Lipid Replinisher " for $195 U.S.

Emu Oil S is like 14.99.

Perricone's books teach you how to PREVENT skin wrinikling and skin damage, but it doesn't tell you anything about repairing already damaged skin(which 99% of the people on this planet suffer from so you'd think it had a minor importance.)


There is no published proof that his methods even prevent wrinkles.
Location: Bay area, California
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AmyLou you are so funny!!! I totally agree. It is so hard to eat healthy ALL the time because you have to chew so much to break it down. I find myself not wanting to finish my meal because I am so tired from all of the chewing. And I have an insulated lunch bag as well, where I drag all of my healthy meals. I hate to cook which is a drag because eating out or frozen meals are not very good for you. So the lifestyle does get old after a while.
Location: Bay area, California
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Kat I don't know if you are interested in paying 11.95 a month for e-diets. But they have a low glycemic diet where you can choose which foods you would want and they create custom recipes for the week. I think it is helpful because you will get a feel for what foods are incorporated in low glycemic index diet. And there is a 24 hr 1-800 number where you can adjust your caloric intake based on your activity level. And everyone you talk to has at least a bachelor's in nutrition.
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Just a note about Dr. Perricone:

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Feel free to post your comments and experiences, but also be mindful that any disparaging comments against a person's character or intent are not allowed.

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JW
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Registered: 24 May 2005
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It's a shame to have a smart man manipulate and decieve us into beleiving that his products work. Face it Dr. Perricone, you're no better than 90% of dermatologists out there.

He does not know "the wrinkle cure".
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Like almost everyone else, I fell for Perricone a few years back, and I am glad b/c it was the first step in what became a really good path to the good health of my skin (reading The Wrinkle Cure led me to Skin Biology). I think he may be hurting himself in the long run b/c eventually people figure out that there are often better, always less pricey products out there. I never really see Perricone products discussed much any more on any of the really knowledgable web sites devoted to skin.
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I hate to open up this after no one has posted in forever but I would like to say something on Perricone's behalf. He is smart for this reason, he has researched and put it in a book and bottled up some vitamins and such and is making a mega fortune on it!!! Why? Because we are all looking for that miracle cure. If we did our own research or even looked at what he is packaging up and found those products for ourselves we couldnt be mad at him for doing his homework. Actually I did read his book and I thank him, he has a lot of good foods on his list that are good for your body on the whole. His list of foods are good for balancing the ph levels in our bodies as well. Of course all this is just my little opinion. I would never waste my money on his products, my corner drug store offers the same products for a fraction of the cost. But I do follow some of his food guide lines just for general good health. Smiler
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