Hi Dr Pickart,

I need your help~

i just went to did a 3 in one laser consisting of microlaser peel, erbium laser and the profractional laser.

My face is still burning hot now and i looked like i have a sun burn skin. hehe..

The plastic surgeon told me to just use the Centaphil moisturizer for strict 3 days, then only i may start to use emu oil though he doesnt really quite like the idea that i use emu oil as he's afraid that it might clog my pores.

As he knows im trying to conceive soon, he didnt ask me to use antibiotic cream, and i was told to do without the polyquine and retin A though it is suppose to help the skin healing nicely..


so my questions is when i can intro in the CP serum into my post-op regeim? Do i wait for like 3-4 days later where new skin is form or can i apply cp serum the next day?

Understands that i cant use cp serum when there is still blood oozing right?

Besides CP serum, Isit better to use skin signal, or bioheal or trireduction for a better results from the lasers?

Will the trireduction breaks me out from laser or should i just stick to CP serum that is good enough for healing a beautiful skin?

Thanks alot

I don't understand why they used three lasers (microlaser peel, erbium laser and the profractional laser). There is little or no science behind the differences in the lasers.

The best method to help your skin's recovery is the use, after the oozing stops, a light amount of CP serum followed by Emu Oil with Antioxidants. This will slowly restore better health to your skin.

Oh okay,

thanks alot Dr Pickart, i've actually starts using the CP serum today (2nd day, i think the face is not oozing anymore, just that the skin is still trying to form scabs. I've actually used trireduction on certain area of deeper pits of mine, is that useful?

Thanks alot

Dr Pickart,

may i know how many times can i apply the CP serum in a day?

Or can i apply CP serum in the day, then Trireduction in the night before i sleep?

Hi Dr Pickart,

Need your help.. =(

Today is my 4th day post-op laser, and i have been using CP serum and emu oil on the whole face in the day and Night time , which is twice daily. And also i spot treat Those scars areas with Trireduction cream.


Please advise me if what im doing is correct?

Am i suppose to use Trireduction or bioheal during this time?

Please help me, thanks

Yes, what you are doing is correct. Just don't use too much product.

ok, thanks alot Dr Pickart

I shall update my skin condition again after a week

Hi Dr Pickart,

I've just went for my review for my laser today.

Today is my post-op 6th day, but the surgeon said the scabs are suppose to peel off almost of them on the 3rd day.. and the pores that has been peeled off, looks clogged..

And so he suggest that i stopped using the emu oil and CP serum for the time being As he finds that its the emu oil that clogs my pores and he afraid that i might have apply too much stuff on my still healing skin. He told me that i can still carry on with my own products only after my skin has fully healed.

He suggests me to use just the vitamin C serum and centapil moisturizer he prescribed twice daily, until they are healed. Right now, i can see some fresh pup-like pimples on them and the redness patches..

Will emu oil clogs my skin in tropical country?


So should i listen to my surgeon to stop CP and emu oil for the time being?

Right now i can see my skin is smoother now, but i can still see the pores and scars... =(

Is it still in time to spot treat the pitted with Trireduction to see if it can helps the scars to level up? Will Trireduction causes pimples as im quite prone to acne.

I still wishes to continue my CP serum now, do you think it is still possible to intro just CP serum and Trireduction, together with Vit C serum into my regime now?

Or should i stop using cp serum and trireduction for the time being?

Hope you can help me with these.. thanks you Dr Pickart.

Should i draw out a table on my daily regime for now??

Morning

clease face,

Vit c serum together with moisturizer.

( Should i apply CP serum before or after Vit C? Can i apply straight after or before Vit C serum? Or di i wait 15 mins or 30 mins later?)

Trireduction - to spot treat)

After applying everything then spot treat? Need to wait after some time then spot treat or can spot treat straight?

Bioheal - to spot treat the pimples?)


Night time - the same sequences.


Sorry for the long post, do advise me if i can intro CP serum still, together with Trireduction or bioheal while im using Vitamin C serum?

thanks alot

Hi,

sorry for the previous long post, can anyone please advise me how do i intro just the CP serum, bioheal and trireduction (for spot treating) into my post op laser daily regimen while i have to use vitamin C serum twice daily.

Is it okay to use CP serum, bioheal and trireduction in combination use of the vitamin c serum prescribed by my doctor?

Will appreciate lots.

thanks.

In theory, vitamin C and SRCPs should not be used together because they can chemically react and the copper 2+ can damage the vitamin C.

But no one ever has reported a problem and many women say they use both and have beautiful skin.

Some dermatologists say that this does not happen with vitamin C esters, but it does.

But I do recommend using the SRCPs and vitamin C about 12 hours apart.

Hi Dr Pickart,

thanks for your reply.

12 hours apart seems to be quite hard ..? As im instructed to apply the vit C serum 2 times daily, and now i was given retin A to apply at night.. So ... it seems rather hard to squeeze in the SRCPs? =(

Use the retin-a with the copper peptides. They work well together.

Topical, Vitamin C, in reality, does little for skin. The copper peptides do everything for skin and the vitamin C only helps collagen. But even for collagen, the copper peptides do better.

Effects of topical creams containing vitamin C, a copper-binding peptide cream and melatonin compared with tretinoin on the ultrastructure of normal skin - A pilot clinical, histologic, and ultrastructural study. Abdulghani A.A.; Sherr A.; Shirin S.; Solodkina G.; Tapia E.M.; Wolf.GottliebA.B.; Dermatology, UMDNJ, Robert Wood Johnson Medical School; Disease Management and Clinical Outcomes, 1998, 1:136-141.

A clinical study which compared the effect on the skin's production of collagen after using creams containing copper-peptides, vitamin C, or retinoic acid (retin-A) Twenty volunteers applied the various creams to their thighs daily for one month. New collagen production was determined by studying skin biopsy samples using immunohistological techniques.

The study found, that after one month, copper-peptides had the most significant effect on collagen production. Significant increases in collagen production were found in 70% of the persons treated with copper-peptide creams, 50% of the persons treated with the vitamin C cream, and 40% of the persons treated with retinoic acid.

Thanks Dr Pickart, for the infor

Updating on my laser, today is post-op 20th day.
My scars didnt seems to have any improvements!

-My whole face feels rough intead of smooth,

- skin is still very dry,

- and my foundation powder cant seems to glide on smoothly on my face! My face looks patchy and cakey with powders on right now.
Help!!

- as i have very clogged pores to begin with, i had outbreaks of few acne right now after the laser.


Right now, my daily regime is

Day:

PCA cleanser
CP serum
avene thermal water spray
Avene skin recovery cream
Spf 50 sunscreen

evening:

PCA cleanser
Exfol serum
Avene skin recovery cream

Night time:

PCA cleanser
skin recovery cream + vitamin C serum
Retin A


Currently im using Avene skin recovery cream in replace emu oil as my doctor believes that emu oil will clog my pores in hot tropical country.

However, i will still use emu oil under my makeup , in hoping that it will helps my skin not look so patchy with foundation powder.


I have some questions here, hope anyone and Dr Pickart can help me with these..

1) will emu oil really clog my pores as im living in a hot tropical country?

2) i have actually started doing the needling on a few of my scars today 20th post-op laser, is that okay?

3) is my daily regime okay?

4) what should i be applying on the spot right after spot needling done? TriReduction cream or CP serum is good enough?


thanks alot for replies and sorry for the long post again


Regards,

peachtea

Buried skin damage takes time to remove.

Buried skin damage usually causes irregularities in human skin such a bumps, pits or altered pigmentation.

This buried damage is usually covered, and trapped in place, by relatively good looking skin. The use of copper peptides, hydroxy acids, abrasion, needling, and retinoic acid help remove the covering skin and the the pushing up and out of the area of damage.

One of the ways that sun damage on skin manifests itself is as dark patches of excess melanin produced in response to UV exposure. This excess melanin is much easier to visualize in the UV than in the visible band. Bruising, bite marks and scar tissue can also be seen in the UV months after they have faded to the eye.

It is difficult to convince people of the huge problem of buried skin damage, but look at the pictures at www.reverseskinaging.com/buried-skin-damage.html

Hi Dr Pickart,

i was browsing through this thread, and just realised of what i did, i actually applied the CP serum on my post=op 2nd daY! When the even has stopped oozing but scabs were not even formed yet!

Is that a wrong move? Could it have hidden the post-op recovery, causing too rapid recovery and hence, the pitted scars doesnt have much improvements?

Is that a permanant result?
Can my skin be save back if i have over-stimulated the recovery process?


Sorry for so much questions again.

thanks alot

That will not hurt you but we are not allowed by the FDA to recommend products for freshly wounded skin.