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Location: Canada
Registered: 13 March 2007
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I keep reading on the internet that its impossible to fully remove a scar, you can only reduce it and improve the appearance of it, but not remove it.
Is this true? Has anybody here actually TOTALLY removed a scar and brand new skin is there now that blends in with your existing skin? If so please share your full protocol and hwo long it took. Thanks! |
![]() Location: Skin Biology
Registered: 15 September 2004
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The copper peptides are remodeling signals in the human body. This was first predicted by researchers form the Univ. of Reims in 1999. Later studies at the Univ. of Pennsylvania and UC San Francisco funded by Neutrogena reported that copper peptides reduced or removed small blemishes and hyperpigmentation.
We started receiving reports of scar removal in about year 2000. We collected hundreds of letters, then stopped collecting them. Fresh scars can be usually be removed in about a month but old scars usually take 4 to 8 months to remove. I can't say these methods work for everyone but they work for many people. This is our general advice on scar reduction. We think almost any skin blemish (scars and pitted scars, keratosis, skin tags, moles, age spots, sun damage, stretch marks, warts, hyperpigmentation and hypopigmentation, white scars, discoloration) can be reduced or removed with a combination of hydroxy acids, skin abrasion, and Skin Remodeling Copper Peptides (SRCPs). Copper peptides also suppress the production of TGF-beta-1, the scar forming protein. So as you remove scar tissue, the SRCPs help prevent new scar formation. The hydroxy acids and abrasive methods slowly loosen and dissolve the blemish tissue and the SRCPs help the rebuilding of new skin.(Caution: This advice applies only to normal skin blemishes. Any skin blemish that appears dark, irregular, or bleeds should be promptly checked by a dermatologist.) Scar reduction is a balancing act of scar removal and rebuilding skin. Too rapid removal of scar tissue and you get a hole in your skin and too little scar removal and there is no progress. In the past, dermatologists often observed that strong hydroxy acids, and other methods like the use of liquid nitrogen on blemishes, would remove the skin blemishes but subsequent skin irritations limited the use of these methods. Skin may look worse for a time during scar reduction. Some deep scars such as from acne are covered over with a layer of good skin but as the buried scar tissue is pushed to the surface, it becomes noticeable. Often, one has to first get the skin into a healthier condition and then focus on removing the scars. More SRCPs makes skin healthier, more hydroxy acids remove tissue. The method is slow but usually works and has no downside. We find that repeated use of moderate strength hydroxy acid, followed by the use of SRCPs, usually removes skin blemishes without excess skin irritation. The SRCPs are usually rubbed into the scar area in the morning and the Hydroxy acid product rubbed in at night. Stronger hydroxy acids and our stronger SRCPs work faster but irritation can sometimes be a problem with the stronger products. Sometimes, people also use retinoic acid (Retin-A or Renova) along with the hydroxy acids to speed scar removal. The products should be used every day. Some people with severe scars have had good results by applying the products four times daily a hydroxy acid at 8 am, a SRCP at noon, a hydroxy acid at 5 PM, and a SRCP before bedtime. You should see an improvement in a month but some old scars such as stretch marks and keloid scars may take 6 to 8 months to slowly remove. Slower is better in scar reduction. 1.If you are under 30, have acne in the scar area, or have rosacea, then use Super CP Serum in the morning and LacSal Serum at night. Start the products lightly - 1 drop of each daily then slowly increase the amount used. 2.If acne is not a problem, then use TriReduction Cream in the morning and LacSal cream at night. 3.If you are not getting enough effect, then try Super Cop or Super Cop 2X Extra Strength Extra which are our strongest SRCP but can cause itching. If it itches, you can wash it off with warm water. Skin slowly adapts to the Super Cops but this can take some time. Usually Super CP Serum is applied lightly in the AM ( 3-4 drops to the entire face) and concentrated specifically on your areas of concern. A Super Cop Cream (or Super Cop 2X) can be used as a spot treatment once a day very lightly. You can even work it into the skin with a flat toothpick. 4.Some clients report good results after applying Super CP Serum, letting it dry for a short time, then applying LacSal Cream over the Super CP Serum. 5. If you still are not getting a good enough effect, then replace our hydroxys with a 30% glycolic acid or lactic acid product. There are links to sellers of these at www.scar-reduction.com or http://www.reverseskinaging.com/resellers.html. For difficult lesions, like age spots, the salicylic acids (about 12% salicylic acid) used for wart and callus removal often work well - drugstores have these. 6. Skin color usually reverts to its pre-damage color. 7. Blemish reduction can be further accelerated by skin abrasion with exfoliating washclothes (microdermabrasion cloths), pumice stones, abrasive pads, or microdermabrasion kits such as those used to remove calluses. Flat toothpicks can loosen pitted scar tissue. Subcision with needles is often also used to break up hard or fat containing scar tissue in depressed scars such as after cystic acne. A product called Dermaroller (roller with needles) is often reported to work well with our copper peptides. It is available on Internet. Don't use it more than once weekly. Clean it after use and sterilize it before further use. 8.Using Retinoic acid (Renova or Retin-A) with SRCPs often produces faster scar reduction. Use 0.25% to 0.50% retinoic acid creams which are strong. 9.Daily supplements of 1 gram vitamin C, 1 gram MSM, and 1 gram each of either flaxseed oil, borage oil, or primrose oil also help skin rebuilding. 10.Stress inhibits skin repair and the rate of scar reduction by increasing blood cortisol. Taking 75 to 100 mgs daily of DHEA during periods of high stress may help block the cortisol effect and stimulate skin repair. 11.Regular aerobic exercise floods more blood into the skin and speeds skin repair and scar reduction. 12. There is more information at www.scar-reduction.com. |
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Location: Canada
Registered: 13 March 2007
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Thanks a lot Dr.Pickart i really appreciate the help.
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Location: Maine
Registered: 30 March 2008
Posts: 1758
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Yes Superone
Scars CAN be completely removed & replaced with brand NEW tissue. It depends on the type of scars you have (acne-realted, injury, raised, depressed & AGE) that will determine how long it will take. The IDEA is to breakdown the old scar tissue with Hydroxys & other abrasion techniques which then allows the CPs the rebuild the skin with NEW collagen. Skin ROLLER are very effective & sometimes necessary. You just don't apply strong products in hopes to dissolve the scar, rather work with mild products to start, then build up to stronger. It is a process that takes TIME, but with continued effort, near perfect results can be achieved. SAME goes for wrinkles if you are able to comprehend the process & adapt to a routine that suits your skin. Good Luck!... |
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Location: Massachusetts
Registered: 07 July 2008
Posts: 10
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Hi Stoney, I am trying to get rid of surgical scars and many other scars and stretch marks. Maybe you can read my post and recommend the best treatment that would work to get rid of my skin scars and stretch marks. Thanks
http://healthyskin.infopop.cc/...70023352/m/834105242 This message has been edited. Last edited by: FlawlessDerm, |
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Location: Maine
Registered: 30 March 2008
Posts: 1758
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Well FD, I checked out your concerns regarding surgical scars & stretch marks.
I have dealt with neither of these myself but more acne-related scars. I think the SAME principal applies in dealing with them though. I would use relativley strong products & the a skin needling ROLLER. This would be very beneficial for both problems. A .5mm ROLLER may be all you need. You may want to start with Tri-Red & LacSal Cream on your scars & SM's on opposite ends of the day then move up to Super COP & 2X maybe a couple of times of week. A 30% Lactic Acid Peel would be good to use every couple of weeks. The process is slow, but total renewal can be achieved if you work on it. Anyway, don't be depressed by your flaws...we ALL have them... My advice would be to still wear your bathing suit low if that's the way your like it. People really don't look that close & you will still look like the young guy that your are from a distance. Besides, even PERFECT people up close have their share of flaws, but they like the rest of us are banking on others not really looking that close or noticing. Remember, Personality definitely wins out over flaws... Good Luck to YOU!... |
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Location: Massachusetts
Registered: 07 July 2008
Posts: 10
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Will these products like Tri-Red, LacSal Cream, and Super Cop have any effect on the surrounding skin of the stretch marks and surgical scars?
Also, I have allot of stretch marks on my thighs and buttocks. What do I do for that problem? Do I use the same procedure Using Tri-Red and LasCal all over my thighs and buttocks? This message has been edited. Last edited by: FlawlessDerm, |
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Location: Massachusetts
Registered: 07 July 2008
Posts: 10
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anyone?
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Location: USA
Registered: 13 October 2009
Posts: 17
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My experience is that if the products I use get on the healthy skin surrounding the scar I am working on, they can cause a fair amount of irritation. However, nothing too problematic, and the healthy skin tends to rebound pretty quickly. I am very careful with peels to keep the peel solution only on the scar tissue because the tissue has been so tough and it takes very strong peels to get any peeling and shedding of the actual scar tissue. Also, I try to be careful with manual abrasion, but I can't always see/ feel exactly where I am exfoliating. I think it is trickier with stretch marks, but the healthy skin will get acclimated to the products and get the beneficial effects. So, most likely the healthy skin surrounding the blemishes you are working on will look great when you finish the process. You may just have to gauge the reaction of all the skin in the area and work up to the stronger products.
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Registered: 15 September 2004
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We had over a hundred letters and emails from clients saying they removed scars. Then we stopped saving these. But most of the rapid successes were new scars or probably superficial scars. As you can see from this forum, buried scars and skin damage is more difficult to remove. Buried skin damage and scars usually causes irregularities in human skin such a bumps, pits or altered pigmentation. This buried damage is usually covered, and trapped in place, by relatively good looking skin. The use of copper peptides, hydroxy acids, abrasion, needling, and retinoic acid help remove the covering skin and the the pushing up and out of the area of damage. One of the ways that sun damage on skin manifests itself is as dark patches of excess melanin produced in response to UV exposure. This excess melanin is much easier to visualize in the UV than in the visible band. Bruising, bite marks and scar tissue can also be seen in the UV months after they have faded to the eye. It is difficult to convince people of the huge problem of buried skin damage, but look at the pictures at www.reverseskinaging.com/buried-skin-damage.html |
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