its been at least 7 months of applying emu oil and TriReduction to my cortisoned damaged penis, and all i have to say is there is no improvement...any improvment was temporary and other than using SuperCopx2 i have no clue what to do. applying daily did nothing, my skin is as thin or thinner as before. it is unable to retain moisture and cruts and peels upon any sexual usage....can it be erections and by that i mean the stretching and usage of the penis is stoping the healing?? i really need help, i am beginning to have very hopeless thoughts that are interfering with my life.

DO NOT USE SUPER COP. No way. It has acid.

I also didn't notice any improvement in skin thickness on certain areas of my cheeks with copper peptides serum.

The problem is copper peptides need the velus hairs in order to do their work. Those areas on my face just didn't have them because they're damaged. The penis doesn't have these tiny little hairs either, so copper peptides are useless there.

So what I would do if I were in that position, is order retinol in squalene. I'd vouch for retinol in squalene, it has been thickening my skin these past 7 weeks. Retinol has skin repair properities, and the beauty is that skinbio's retinol doesn't cause any irritation.

thats scary, how is that possible considering all the information and the uses of cp on other areas like eyelids and whatnot... now if thats the case then skin bio has some explaining to do....and i am honeslty really angry and depressed and borederline suicidal here...and if i find out all this time i was just making things worse which is what it seems i dont know how i am going to handle that....so i hope someone more so the good doctor can clear this up or else i really dont know what to do because my mental health is going down the drain here if i have to worry about my penis...iand its just not for now but for the future...i dont know how much worse it can get over time! its really thin the skin....and fragile!

You should be able to get skin recovery. But you may have to give your favorite organ a long vacation from work to let the skin recover.

i see....well, ok, what should i use? stick with what i have been using? emu oil and trireduction?

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Originally posted by mkultra:
its really thin the skin....and fragile!

In my experince, the copper peptides were good for every part of my face, except the parts I damaged most--the sides of my nose. This area lost a lot of thickness and the copper peptides were not working(or they were working, but far too slowly).

The CP serum alone did not do any work, however, the retinol in squalane did start thickening my skin. I notice that the skin is slowly thickening just by using the retinol in squalene 3-4 times daily.

If I were you, I'd purchase it and use it more often, while using trireduction less often. It's not expensive and you should order it from the Canadian skin biology website. It'll arrive in 2-3 days and there's no fee border fee since it's delivered from Canada.

Maybe BioHeal, BND (P&R for Breasts, Nipples, and Décolletage), Protect and Restore (w or w/o retinol), or CP Serum are better choices?

And use them with a BHO or Jason Vitamin E Oil.

Squalane with retinol may make a difference.

Squalene with retinol WILL make a difference. I've been using it for two months and it has been slowly increasing my skin thickness. Copper peptides don't seem to be working alone, or they're just too slow, the retinol accelerates the effects of copper peptides. I don't find this surprising since both retinoic acid and GHK-CU are found in the blood stream.

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Originally posted by Dr. Pickart:
You should be able to get skin recovery. But you may have to give your favorite organ a long vacation from work to let the skin recover.

um..how long tho? and why is it the CPs made it worse? i dont understand how it sped up the thinning? please answer this honestly! i thought i was helpin myself~

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Originally posted by Roke:
Squalene with retinol WILL make a difference. I've been using it for two months and it has been slowly increasing my skin thickness. Copper peptides don't seem to be working alone, or they're just too slow, the retinol accelerates the effects of copper peptides. I don't find this surprising since both retinoic acid and GHK-CU are found in the blood stream.

Roke, sorry to disappoint you but squalane with retinol is not an active. It is simply a moisturizing product and the retinol in the squalane does not do a whole lot of anything as far as skin remodelling is concerned.

Kathy

I would be more inclined to use a milder product in this area. Perhaps Protect and Restore, or BioHeal would be a better choice than Tri-Red. It couldnt hurt to try the Retinol in Squalane, either, but I imagine the Emu Oil is just fine.
How often are you using the Tri-Red? I wouldnt use it more than twice a day, once in the morning, once at night. It can be tempting to use it more often, thinking that "if a little is good, then a lot is better", but I feel that you could be potentially doing more harm than good if you do this. With these products, less is truly more. These are very strong products, and should not be over-used. If, by chance, you were using it too often, then I would say try using it twice a day with a healing oil, and see how your skin responds. You may have better luck doing it this way. Good luck with everything, MK.

i no longer use the Tri, i really think it made it much worse!!! infact i am almost certain it did and i used it once a day after i showered, applying about two drops or less each time, i never go any irritation other than a slight and i mean ever so slight feeling after application. since using it my skin thickness reduced rapidly.... so i am pretty pissed off....

actually after further reading, i noticed that retinol its its diff forms, exfoliate first...so i think i exfoliate layers with the retinol in the trireduction cream and in essence @#@#'d myself over big time!!! it probably exfoliated waay more than it could recover. i honestly think i should just f'ing kill myself now!

You are confusing retinol with retinoic acid. The retinol in Tri-Red works as a moisturizer; it increases your skins natural oil production. It does not exfoliate skin. Tri-Red with Retinol does not contain any exfoliants. Retinol and Retinoic Acid are completely different substances.

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Originally posted by KathyC:

Roke, sorry to disappoint you but squalane with retinol is not an active. It is simply a moisturizing product and the retinol in the squalane does not do a whole lot of anything as far as skin remodelling is concerned.

Kathy

People also told me that I couldn't possibly have lost skin thickness by scrubbing too hard, yet my skin lost thickness by scrubbing too hard. And now you're telling me that retinol in squalane isn't thickening my skin, but lo and behold, it has been thickening my skin for the past two months. The thicker tissue from the sides is moving in and slowly adding on the layers of skin fibers that I scraped away. I should probably use a higher retinol product but was searching for an affordable green cream outlet.

I've used it twice a day under my eyes, and no irritation whatsoever. The area has thickened.

It is slow, but it works steadly. Mkultra seems to be convinced that retinol is the culprit, but retinol is the friend--provided it is low concentration.

...stuck in the middle

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Originally posted by Roke:

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Originally posted by KathyC:

Roke, sorry to disappoint you but squalane with retinol is not an active. It is simply a moisturizing product and the retinol in the squalane does not do a whole lot of anything as far as skin remodelling is concerned.

Kathy

People also told me that I couldn't possibly have lost skin thickness by scrubbing too hard, yet my skin lost thickness by scrubbing too hard. And now you're telling me that retinol in squalane isn't thickening my skin, but lo and behold, it has been thickening my skin for the past two months. The thicker tissue from the sides is moving in and slowly adding on the layers of skin fibers that I scraped away. I should probably use a higher retinol product but was searching for an affordable green cream outlet.

I've used it twice a day under my eyes, and no irritation whatsoever. The area has thickened.

It is slow, but it works steadly. Mkultra seems to be convinced that retinol is the culprit, but retinol is the friend--provided it is low concentration.

Dear Roke,

Perhaps it's a coincidence. I don't know. If your skin is improving then by all means continue whatever you are doing! All I know is that retinol in squalane is not an "active" product. It does not aid in skin remodelling, other than for moisture. Perhaps your skin is benefiting from the moisturizing properties it provides.

Kathy

mkultra....just jumping in here...please do not use BioHeal on your genital area...it contains menthol and camphor...I would stop all CPs and other actives, continue using Emu and Squalane/Retinol and get yourself in to see a specialist! Find one that truly cares about your situation!

Kathy is correct that Squalane with Retinol is not an active...the Retinol serves to increase moisture, which is why you are probably seeing some nice plumping of your skin Roke.

I have read that retinol can be very active in the skin, to the point that if in the right form and in high enough concentrations it's comparable to retinoic acid. I've been doing a lot of research into this lately...

Also, the simple fact is that Roke has noticed improvement, and so have others, from this product - theory aside! Of course it may be that it was just 'time' for healing to occur, and without any irritating actives to get in the way of that, it's just what happened.

BTW, I have found Rosehip Oil to be the most healing of all the oils I've tried.

D.