Dear Skin Biology Clients/ Visitors:

Skin Biology is dedicated to finding improved methods to remodel the skin and due to client feedback or other concerns, many times product formulas or ingredients may be slightly revised. Some clients have noticed certain changes in the past and have asked that we post what has been changed and the reason.

Under this thread you will find when we have made any improvements/refinements to product formulas. Feel free to post your questions and Dr. Pickart will answer them here.

Best Wishes,
-Skin Bio Team

Dear Dr. Pickart,
Please consider formulating a Super Cop 2 X SERUM...the cream version breaks me out badly and I know that several others have experienced this reaction, as well.

If you can't make a 2 X SERUM, can you think about reformulating the Super Cop 2 X Cream to make it non-comedogenic?

Thanks, and I appreciate you making this new thread available to us.

Best wishes,
John

Dear John,

Since Super Cop and SC2x creams have similar ingredients, do you also break out from using Super Cop?

I use Super Cop more often than SC2x and seem to break out a bit from using Super Cop, but then I break out from using Super CP Serum and CP Serum at times, too.

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Dear JW,
To tell you the truth, I've never tried Super Cop because I remember reading that it was contraindicated for people with oily skin or acne. While I don't have acne anymore I DO have oily skin and I don't want to use anything on my face that may make me break out again.

Yes, the Super CP Serum does sometimes break me out, though thankfully not too often. I can use the regular CP Serum without any negative effect, but I'm trying to eradicate scars and I know this product isn't strong enough to do that.

Anyway, I really do hope that Dr. Pickart will reformulate the Super Cop 2X Cream without the comedogenic ingredients or at least think about creating a Super Cop 2 X Serum.

Much continued good luck, JW-

John

Hi John,

And you are positive that SC2x causes you to breakout?

The consistencies (and colors) of the two creams are different. Other than the after-use blue tint, I personally find SC2x spreads and feel better on my skin than Super Cop (and no sting) and seems gentler, more elegant formulation (except the blue tint), and not as comedogenic as Super Cop even though the two creams have idential ingredients according to the Ingredient Page dated 3/2005. I'm sure the differences in concentrations and formulations could make a difference.

I'm afraid to use products that cause me to breakout, too, but I am going to take a chance on SC2x since I don't use it regularly as an oveall treatment. I used SC2x all over my face last night and will use it for a week or two to test.

All of our SRCP products can occasionally cause breakouts but usually this passes with time.

It may be that the SRCPs help make the skin more like younger skin but younger skin has a higher oil content and is more outbreak prone.

Pre- and postmenopausal women can experience acne in addition to teens.

Even with a balanced plant-based diet, my skin is exceptional sensitive to cosmetic ingredients and monthly hormonal fluctuation and I have to be watchful for skin care comedogens. However, at the end of my one-week test, I can't say SC2x was more comedogenic than CP Serum for me even if both SC2x and Super Cop contained the same possible comedogenic ingredients whereas CP Serum had none.

It might be important to know that this uncontrolled small test confirmed somewhat the following known problems and findings about comedogenicity:

1. that comedogenicity is not a reliable test because there is no effective standardized testing method established for human subjects. The deficient rabbit-ear test is the only existing testing.

2. Furthermore, the ratings and testing results are not consistent among all comedogenicity and irritancy lists.

3. The formulation of possible comedogens with other ingredients and percentage concentrations are influential factors over a specific identified comedogen.

"It may be that the SRCPs help make the skin more like younger skin but younger skin has a higher oil content and is more outbreak prone."

Dear Dr. Pickart,

Let's say a hypothetical guy called "Bob X" is an old guy using CPs. Now, since CPs make the skin act younger, will Bob X's skin get oily/spotty even if, when he was young, Bob X didn't suffer oily skin/breakouts?

I guess my question is, will CPs cause the skin to be oily/breakout prone even if a person didn't have these types of problems when they were young?

does that make sense? Its quite late here : )

best wishes, em

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Originally posted by AnotherAlchemist:
I guess my question is, will CPs cause the skin to be oily/breakout prone even if a person didn't have these types of problems when they were young?

When I was young I had minimal acne problems. I turn 50 in a few weeks, so I guess now I'm an "old guy" even if my name isn't Bob. <g>

Anyway, CPs have caused no breakout problems for me. I have used Super CP Serum, Super Cop and Super Cop 2x.

quote:

Originally posted by AnotherAlchemist:
"It may be that the SRCPs help make the skin more like younger skin but younger skin has a higher oil content and is more outbreak prone."

Dear Dr. Pickart,

Let's say a hypothetical guy called "Bob X" is an old guy using CPs. Now, since CPs make the skin act younger, will Bob X's skin get oily/spotty even if, when he was young, Bob X didn't suffer oily skin/breakouts?

I guess my question is, will CPs cause the skin to be oily/breakout prone even if a person didn't have these types of problems when they were young?

does that make sense? Its quite late here : )

best wishes, em

Yes, this does occasionally happen when using the products as too-much, too-fast. But it usually is a passing phase.

Another interesting observation or to complicate the matter about acne or pimples...

P. bacteria live off skin's fatty acid and a person with dry skin can be acne-prone or breakout as well.

Super Cop does tend to leave a film and ball up more and induces more skin sensations than any other CP products for me even after the adjustment periods.