I have recently been on a spree trying wrinkle creams froms the internet.

One site even mentions Dr. Pickart (Skincell) and I ordered the product (and had a $189.00 pending charge placed on my account. So much for a "free trial")

Can someone comment on these creams? Do they do what they claim?

I am particularly curious about Matryxl 3000.

Also, I'm wondering if Dr. Pickart endorses or even knows about Skincell. I'll find the web address later, and post it here. But I'm warning you, it's 20 pages long!

I feel like a total idiot for ordering this stuff.

I would appreciate any comments from any of the members and particularly Dr. Pickart. Thanks.

I have no connection with Skincell.

The problem is that the manufacturers of Matrixyl say that its actions are like TGF-beta-1.

But TGF-beta-1 is the scar forming protein that is present in the inflammatory stage of skin repair. It will increase skin collagen but you actually need skin remodeling (out with the old collagen, in with the new collagen). Only copper peptides do this.

The problem is that the cosmetic companies do not understand the sequence of skin rebuilding. It starts as an emergency inflammatory condition then is switched into the copper dependent, anti-inflammatory remodeling phase. This is what is needed to improve the skin.

Look at www.skinbiology.com/wound-healing-society2008.html and www.skinbiology.com/wound-healing-society2009.html for an explanation of skin repair and rebuilding.

So, the products are a total waste of money?
Should I give up on Matryxl 3000 (even the pure stuff)?

I have been sticking to my CP regimen, but trying these creams atop the CP. Do you think this is more damaging than helpful?

I feel used.

Dr. Pickart,

Is there a way to see better results than with Super CP serum? Should I be adding anything else?

I'm at a place in my life where I have been through a lot, have started a new relationship, and want to look me best. I'm 50 years old, but on the youthful side. (Except emotionally; I don't think CPs can heal those scars.)

Any help would be very welcome.

> These are general starting instructions for rebuilding skin. But
> everyone's skin is different, so it may take some experimenting to find
> what works best for yourself.
>
> The process of rebuilding skin with our method is slow, but not
> irritating. Reducing wrinkles and skin lesions is much slower. But even
> very strong Retin-A takes about 2 years to reduce major wrinkles at the
> price of chronic redness and irritation.
>
> Look at http://www.reverseskinaging.com/pictures.html and
> http://reverseskinaging.com/nasolabial.html and read the comments.
>
> For your face.....
>
> Our serums work best on oily skin areas like the T-Zone and the creams
> are best for drier skin areas. The fastest actions are on general skin
> tone and "glow".
>
> The best results for wrinkle reduction, pore reduction, and skin
> tightening that that we hear from our clients are:
>
> 1.Use a very mild cleanser such our Gentle Clean. Do not over cleanse
> your skin. Use biological healing oils such as squalane or emu oil to
> remove make up.
>
> 2.Our Serums are best on sensitive skin or oily outbreak-prone skin. Our
> creams work best of dryer skin areas. Sebum Be Gone helps reduce excess
> facial sebum.
>
> 3.In the morning, use CP Serum in the morning followed by Emu Oil-S for
> Skin. Start with 2 drops of each daily for your face and increase the
> amount slowly. If your skin feels oily, blot off the excess oil with a
> tissue. Later you might change to Super CP Serum.
>
> 4.For your eyes, read http://store.reverseskinaging....s.asp?ProductCode=26 This is a
> difficult area but it can be rebuilt and the skin around the eyes tightened.
>
> 5.At night, you might alternate Exfol Cream or our new LacSal Cream and
> Protect & Restore #3 - a high retinol cream. If you have problems with
> acne, then use Retinol-free P&R#2.
>
> 6.Many women also use Super Cop at night, but you should use the other
> products before you move to this very strong product.
>
> 7.The Day Cover can be used for protection when outside.
>
> 8.SRCPs and retinoic acid applied together often work very well and
> gives a stronger action than SRCPs alone.
>
> 9.Daily supplements of 1 gram Vitamin C and 1 gram MSM also help rebuild
> skin proteins. 1 gram of Flaxseed Oil Borage Oil or Primrose Oil, which contains high
> levels of gamma linolenic acid, helps some people with chronic dermatitis.
>
> 10.Stress inhibits skin renewal and skin repair by increasing blood
> cortisol. Taking 50 to 100 mgs daily of DHEA for a few months may help
> block the cortisol effect and stimulates skin repair.
>
> 11.Regular aerobic exercise floods more blood into the skin and speeds
> skin repair and scar reduction.
>
> 12.Microdermabrasion cloths (cost about $10) often help remove older skin.
>
> 13. Skin needle rollers also can help skin remodeling. But do not use them
> more than every 1 or 2 weeks. Be certain to effectively wash the rollers
> after use and sterilize it before further use.
>
> Also take a look at http://reverseskinaging.com/tighten.html

I appreciate that detailed reply.

Are you saying that the poly-peptides are a waste?

I'm using Super CP serum on my complete face, plus a product called Skin Cell (which I cannot determine the worth of.)

Can you look at this product for me, Dr. Pickart?

There really are almost no good human studies on these. There are claims about wrinkle reduction but anything that puffs up the skin will reduce wrinkle. Even bee stings.

But for copper peptides, there are many good, published placebo controlled studies. Copper peptides improve aged skin (increases skin collagen, tightens skin, improves elasticity and firmness, reduces fine lines, wrinkles, photodamage, and hyperpigmentation).

There is more at www.skinbiology.com/copperpeptideregeneration.html.

Thank you for the reply.

Actually, the product is called LifeCell.

www.LifeCellSkin.com

If you get the chance, please take a look.

Many thanks.

This was posted on the lifecellskin.com website.

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Independent "studies might show their products are worthless"! says world-renowned Dr. Loren Pickart, author of Reverse Skin Aging.

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I was unaware of this. I will have our Intellectual Property lawyer send a stop letter to them this week.

This is one reason I put my name on our products. This creates a copyright on the products. If they use my name, this creates confusion in the market place about products and violates copyright laws. (The other reason I put my name on the products is just plain ego.)

I tried to alert you to this before, Dr. Pickart, but I think the post was passed over.

Besides the use of your name, what do you think of the actual product and the ingredients? Presently, I am using it over your CPs, and I find the results damn good.

BTW, I expected total failure with this product, and now I am truly confused.

Again, your comments will be very valuable to me.

This product (LifeCell) is very expensive, BUT, as much as it causes me pain to admit it, I am seeing improvement. (Again, used in conjunction with your products.)

I hate the mystery of all this.

There are methods of producing fast improvements in the look of the skin. Basically these methods puff up the skin with reduces lines and wrinkles. They also wet the outer skin proteins, which makes the skin look better and smoother. Finally they add dyes and optical diffusers to give the skin a soft, pleasant color.

These methods give fast results which is essential to selling at cosmetic counters.

The problem is that these methods produce long term skin damage. The outer wetness slows the sending of new skin keratinocytes to the skin's surface. This produces skin barrier damage that allows bacteria and viruses to enter the skin which ultimately leads to spots and bumps on the skin. Look closely at the faces are relatively young actors and actresses (about 30 years old) at a movie and see all the spots and bumps.

Skin can only rebuild so fast. I am only interested in developing products that improve long-term skin health and beauty.
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Fast vs Slow
from Idelle


I wanted a quick skin elixir.

So impatiently I did convey:

Doc, iron my wrinkles away.

Get me a big fat syringe,

Botulinum toxin and gin,

a cocktail for my lines and loose chin.

Mixed with a chemical diffuser and wrinkle confuser

oh please let the skin fix begin.



I needed to look young by eight.

I had a very important date.

So I stewed in the juice

with chemical abuse.

As my skin turned course and grey.

I am more confused than ever, Dr. Pickart. OK. I have been using your skin products for at least six years, and probably more. My skin is decent, but not flawless. I want more improvement.

So, basically, you are telling me that this product is going to destroy my skin. You only tell me anecdotally, so I'm very confused. I like the effects, but I don't want destroyed skin.

Please, I need direct advice. I DO NOT want to waste my money, but I want the best skin ever.

Respectfully yours...

I am not saying it will destroy your skin. You can try it and see what happens.

But I don't see any studies, especially from independent studies from universities, that show this works on skin.

You can try it but most fast methods damage the skin. They puff up the skin by forcing water into the skin. This reduces wrinkles. And there are ways to wet the outer skin proteins, but this slows keratinocyte flow to the surface.

Very few ingredients have been rigorously proven to rebuild and remodel skin. These are:

1. Retin-A
2. Skin Remodeling Copper Peptides
3. Hydroxy acids

How would I incorporate Retin-A in my skincare regimen?

AM: LacSal
sunscreen
emu oil

PM: Super CP serum
emu oil

I want to adjust to see better results. I'm 50 with pale, fine skin (thin and a bit fragile,) prone to milia, but otherwise normal to slightly-dry. I have a young appearance - my age confuses people.

As I said, I have been using your products for about 6-8 years.

I am looking to refine and brighten my skin, and ward-off wrinkles. (I have no significant wrinkling.) I also worry about potential sagging.

Thank you. I think it's very nice of you to personally respond to inquiries.

Annick