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Location: Canada
Registered: 13 March 2007
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Im only 25 years old and i have lost a lot of Subcutaneous Fat under both my eyes making them look hollow. I really cant stand the look of this. Is there anything that can bring this lost fat back under the eyes? I read that fat graft transfers dont last, and i really want this problem fixed.


Does anybody have any solutions or help in this area?


Thanks.
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All of our safety studies on animals found the copper peptides to thicken the layer of subcutaneous fat. On humans, the copper peptides thicken the skin but since humans don't care for skin biopsies, we don't have direct data on subcutaneous fat. But the copper peptides should help.

Use the CP Night Eyes lightly at first. Later, as your skin adjusts to the SRCPs, then use more product.
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Another way is to build up your cheek-muscles
so they fill up the hollowness. Laugh and try to
have fun and you will be attractive to yourself and others!


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Another thing is that in the eye socket there is ALWAYS a fat layer, if you put the index finger on top of you over eyelid and add a light pressure inward/down you'll se the hollowness bulges out. the theory is when you get older the eyeball will go the gravity way and make that pressure so the hollowness fills out. Another thing is that bodys metabolism changes over time and maybe the fat-cells will grow in the right places.
best wishes
Robert


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In all of our studies on SRCPs, they always increased subcutaneous fat at the base of the skin layers.
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Except some of us have had our eye bags and extra skin removed, so there is no fat at all. Sounds like we can only hope CPs give us a little cosmetic benefit in that area by thickening the skin somewhat. Probably a light reflecting concealer or foundation would help, too.
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It now looks like the CPs work by activating adult stem cells in the skin. So they might increase fat cells in the eye area even after surgery.

Look at http://reverseskinaging.com/GH...untain_of_Youth.html
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Yes, this is the premise of what CPs can do. They stimulate the ability to do what Mother Nature used to do, but loses it as we age.

I did not come into this for the "Anti-Aging Effects" of CPs. I had a much more serious dilema that stemmed from BP use which I used for 30 yrs. to help keep my cyclical acne breakouts under control. In my 40's I used it as a preventor. I thought I was killing the bacteria & healing my blemishes all those years. It turns out the BP created a living NIGHTMARE Confused under my skin that I am slowly & methodically conquering with CPs.

The astounding by-product & BONUS for me is the "Youthifying Effects" of CPs. They do increase facial subcutaneous fat that we lose as we age. I see it in my own face. Smiler I have always been slender by nature with little body fat. The down side to slender people often is they show more signs of aging in their faces from natural fat lose.

I can vouch that CPs increase facial fat. But better than that, they are the answers to scar removal & total skin rejuvenation which is what makes me smile & keeps me going everyday.

CPs are TRUE skin remodelers!... Thumbs UP!...unlike anything else!

Thanks so much Dr. Pickart... Smiler
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Is that how needling helps with cp's for the pitted scars? The increase in subcutaneous fat?

I have stitches that went clear through to the subdermal (or that's what a doctor told me later). Plus a deep pitted acne scar.

Although CPs have helped with dewier plumper skin and reversed one area where I started to see minor crows feet (thank goodness), after 18 months I have not noticed improvement in those 2 scars.

I use tri-reduction cream and microdermabrasion cloth, and am about to start with exfol cream.

I read on this site that needling is good for the deep scars...how often should I start and with what size needle? What brand do you recommend (dermaroller?) Do I stop exfol cream during that time? Do I still use trireduction cream or reduce or increase the CP strength (I have pretty much all the various strength products on hand)

Or should I skip needling around the stitches since it is deeper - could I damage the area under it?

How long from when you started needling (and cps) a particular area did you feel it looked better not worse (ie past the uglies)?
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