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Location: New York
Registered: 06 October 2008
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I just came back from my dermatologists office. I left his office puzzled. Basically I explained to him what my daily routine was, which is as follows:
In the morning; Cleanse with Cetaphil, then Super SP Serum, waita few minutes then TTT Serum, then lightly moisturize with CeraVe Cream.
In the evening; Cleanse with Cetaphil and a Buff Puff, then a 2% salicylic acid pad (non alcoholic), LacSal Serum, and on alternate evenings I just use Retin-A instead, followed by CeraVe.
My dermatologist was quick to say that CP's wont do much, and also said that I'm getting results from the Retin-A and I should just discontinue the rest. At this point I said to myself this man is bogus. Then he told me I should discontinue the use of all my vitamins (I take A LOT of them) and that I should just use vitamin D if I want to take anything...yes, he doesnt even suggest omega-3 supps. Anywho, about the hydroxy acids, he said that they are low concentrations and they are also an oxidant. I wanted to cry, lol. I love my HA's! At that point I said $&#@ this guy Im out (to myself of course) but I remained calm and collective throughout the whole visit.
So what is the deal with hydroxy acids being oxidants, is this true?
And as far as my supplements, I have gotten so used to taking them and now Im being told that they are useless. I know Vitamin D is the latest craze hence why he was ok with that but why discontinue omega-3's???
Im confused, can anyone unconfuse me?
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Registered: 13 April 2009
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Most doctors know nothing about nutrition (except our own, beloved Dr. Pickart Love ) so ignore him and find another doctor who specializes more in cosmetic type dermatology.
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The problem is that most dermatologists just repeat what they are taught.

The CPs look better every year as more studies are published. Send me an email at lorenpickart@skinbiology.com and I will send you some material to show to your derm.

This is from many published articles.

Biological Actions of GHK and GHK-Cu

In Vivo Actions
Improves aged skin (tightens skin, improves elasticity and firmness, reduces fine lines, wrinkles, photodamage, and hyperpigmentation), stimulates wound healing in numerous animal models and in humans, improves human hair growth and hair transplant success, protects and repairs gastric and intestinal lining, accelerates bone repair, increases infection resistance.

Cellular Actions
Increases the proliferation of fibroblasts, keratinocytes, chondrocytes, osteoblasts; increases nerve outgrowth, blood vessel angiogenesis, density of subcutaneous fat cells, and hair follicle size, increase PCNA) proliferating cell nuclear antigen), GHK increases stem cell proliferation. GHK-Cu increases stem cell differentiation into specific cell types and increase marker P63 (an indicator of stem cell activity)

Biochemical Actions
Attracts healing cells (capillary cells, macrophages, mast cells), increases synthesis of collagen, elastin, metalloproteinases, anti-proteases (with the overall effect to reduce protein breakdown), vascular endothelial growth factor, fibroblast growth factor 2, nerve growth factor, neutrotropins 3 and 4, erythropoietin; lowers blood pressure by inducing vasodilation of blood vessels.

Anti-inflammatory Actions
Increases anti-inflammatory proteins (superoxide dismutase, decorin), blocks the release of oxidizing iron from ferritin, suppresses inflammatory cytokines (transforming growth factor beta-1, tumor necrosis factor alpha, interleukin 1), blocks cellular damage by oxygen free radicals and reactive carbonyl species, reduces protein glycation, improves fibroblast recovery after X-ray treatments, blocks ultraviolet damage to skin keratinocytes, increases and reduces thromboxane formation, protects hepatic tissue from tetrachloromethane poisoning, inhibits protein glycation.

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Location: New York
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Thank you Dr. Pickart. I have sent you an email requesting the material.

As far as Hydroxy Acids go, should I stop using the 2% salicylic acid pads and LacSal if I'm using Retin-A? I was using them on alternative nights to the Retin-A to be safe but now I have stopped using the HA's, not knowing if I should or shouldn't be using them. I do one high acid peel once a month (either 30% sal or 40% lac) which I haven't stopped.
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What is the question?

Is it whether hydroxy acids are oxidants?

I have never heard they are oxidants. And the copper peptides have many anti-oxidant actions, so even if there is a problem with hydroxys, the CPs should counter anything.
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