Thanks Skin Biology for your reply. I loved the post on the different exfoliators, this really helps a lot.
I guess I'm just a tiny bit late in answering these questions, but I am not that far behind in the lessons, just in responding to this post. One of my lessons came with "Still with us?" in the message line which made me laugh as I am *totally* still with you - as a matter of fact I just placed another order today as I was getting low on some essentials and also wanted to take advantage of the free holiday gift (I chose Bioheal). Thank you Dr. Pickart and staff for that pleasant surprise! And in return I would like to give you high recommendations to as many people as possible!
It's at the point now were all those other expensive products that I had been buying and that line my shelves seem like a joke with promises attached that don't even come close to being fulfilled! I am still in the early stages of SB products but I think I am beginng to see a some changes in my skin. Here are my answers to the questions asked earlier (I guess better late than never right?):
1. What is your most asked skin care question?
2. How would you describe your skin?
3. What is your best home, DIY (do-it-yourself) tip for excellent skin care?
1~If the question means what is MY most asked question, then I would have to ask if copper peptides can build up in the body over time? I've read articles that attribute heavy metals like copper in the brain to Altzheimer's, Dementia, etc. and as my parent had that disease I am high risk and don't want to do anything to increase that risk?
And how long would it take to get to that level if they do build up, given I am already 57 and never used copper on my skin till this year.
2~I would describe my skin as dry with nasiolabial folds and sagging at the bottom of them as well as some fine lines and wrinkles some dark spots from the sun I guess since I sunbathed with "oil only" well into adulthood... but other than that in pretty good condition- no scars, though I do have thin skin and can see some spider veins on the sides and they seem to be increasing (Btw, can the continual exfoliation on thin skin wear it away and cause these veins to show?). My skin is soft which I attribute to taking Dr. Weil's vitamins for years with the antioxidant as well as his Juvenon which contains Alpha Lipoic Acid and Acetyl- L - Carnitine (healthy aging support developed by a scientist) as well as Longevinex Advantage which is trans- Resveratrol along with other ingredients to help with staying youthful) though I don't take is regularly as it is expensive and also Dr. Weil (Andrew Weil M.D.) doesn't recommend it yet, just the Juvenon. And also eating healthy for many years before I developed acid reflux and now am not able to eat the healthy stuff as much anymore
3~I think I somehow combined this answer into #2. Taking the supplements and eating as healthy as possible with antioxidants esp. if you are forced to take acid reflux medications!This message has been edited. Last edited by: SkinBiologyWebmaster,
AWESOME to have you with us! Welcome. We are glad you are still with us and following the courses.
1. Your first question is a great one! Dr. Pickart is one of the leading authorities on copper's many important health beneficial properties.
As far as topical cosmetic products are concerned, very little copper from copper peptide skin products penetrates through the skin (and even still it is able to produce beautiful cosmetic results).
One small two-week study of Skin Biology's Protect & Restore Cream found no changes in blood copper levels, or any other significant blood chemistry changes, when the product was applied twice daily (4 grams per day).
Interestingly, it is of note that copper deficiency seems to pose a much greater problem.
2/3. It seems that you are doing pretty good. We're glad you mentioned the connection between more resilient skin and what we take into our diet.
I was excited to learn recently that aspirin helps to prevent the cross-linking of proteins in collagen! Does the salicylic acid in the Exfol product go deep enough to help with this? I know it exfoliates the top layers.
At the top of page three it sounded to me like you were advocating a topical application of Omega 3's, but at the bottom of the page the products listed did not have Omega 3's specifically listed as a component.
Could you please clarify? I may have misunderstood. Does Emu Oil have the Omega 3's?
Thanks a bunch!
Oily skin/sebaceous glands question.
I have some bumps that look like they are pimples, but are not. A facialist looked at my skin under a little lighted magnifying glass and told me my sebaceous glands had risen closer to the surface.
I have a few across my cheekbones and up into my temple area. I also have a couple at the juncture of my "under eye skin" and my cheek area, which stand out the most! Also, if I gently pull the under eye skin outward, all of a sudden I can see tons more bumps and wonder if these are all the same.
Have you heard of this before? Anything special I should be doing? currently I use:
AM: new, fancy luxury cream (GHK??) on my right side and Skin Signals spray on my left. Then TTT al over.
PM: Emu oil most nights with a couple of nights of Lactid Power.
I've had these weird bumps for years, since way before I started using these products.
PS. My skin bio history... I started with Skin Signals Solutions and TTT in the AM with Lactic Power daily in the PM. When your day cream came out it sounded so nice that I just added that on as a 3rd layer I the morning. At some point I noticed my skin, which had been looking quite nice, had sprouted tons of fine wrinkles. Whether it was the addition of the day cream, the change in seasons, or life related stresses that brought about the change, who can say. I emailed about what to do. Idele wrote back and suggested holding off on the day cream, changing from the spray to the SS cream and only using Lactic Power a couple of times at week. And to use Celes lotion the other days. I would have followed her advice exactly except that before she could return my email you had your first offering of the free samples of the new cream. So I discussed my wrinkle situation with the friendly lady on the phone and ended up with want I currently have. It's pretty similar. I just didn't want Idele to think I hadn't paid attention to her email if she read my post. It was your free sample that got me.
Loving the Online classroom. Thought I was informed since I started back in early 2000s learning from Dr Pickart, but getting a wonderful comprehensive picture of the Skin Regeneration process. I can't get enough of this subject. I have tried every high-quality product out there, and I keep coming back to SGCP products.
Salicylic acid is oil soluble and therefore can penetrate into oil glands. It is also somewhat soluble in water (even though its solubility in water is lower), so theoretically some amount of it can end up in dermis.
However, there are other ways to prevent crosslinking of collagen. One reason for collagen crosslinking is free radical reactions, so one thing you can do is make sure you use antioxidants.
Another reason for crosslinking of collagen is due to the reactions between sugars and proteins or AGE reactions.
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Omega 3 oils can be applied topically. However, you need to keep in mind that they are easily oxidized. So oils with a high content of omega fatty acids may contain toxic products of lipid peroxidation.
Emu Oil is unique in this aspect. It contains both omega 6 fatty acids (20%) that our skin needs to build its barrier and omega 3 fatty acids (about 2%). But it also contains high amount of oleic acid – monounsaturated acid that is very resistant to lipid oxidation.
Oleic acid enhances skin penetration, so that the other components of emu oil (including omega acids) can easily go into skin. In addition to applying emu oil, you can also eat more fatty fish such as salmon and take fish oil supplements or drink hemp milk. It is always better to feed your skin from the inside AND outside.
You may want to consult your dermatologist (not a cosmetologist) to obtain a proper diagnosis.
In some cases, little white bumps under skin are milia – little cysts filled with keratin and sebum. Some people have lots of those and they may come and go. They are not oil glands, even though they contain sebum.
In this case, gentle regular exfoliation may help. However, you need first to be sure what you have – We're sorry, but it is impossible to tell just from your description. It is best to consult a dermatologist directly.
So glad to have you with us! Please use this forum to keep in touch with others taking the course and to post any follow up questions and feedback.
Hi again, well I finally caught up with the chatter and have questions. But first will respond as requested.
1. My skin care question is "What is proper exfoliation". Maybe I overdo it. I use a Lactic10 or a Retinol product nightly. Is that too much ?
2. my skin is not in bad shape. I have been primarily on Dr Pickart's products for years. And have, I must confess, used Jan Marini products. So now I am not sure I have the best routine for my aging skin. It would be considered dry or mature I suppose.
3. My DIY is doing a Fusion Peel occasionally. Again, not sure if I am over-exfoliating.
Which leads me to a question. I just purchased the 'good stuff'. Dr Pickart's VIP cream.
At first I used it both morning and night. But I my skin took on a 'flushed' look.
I have always used 2nd Gen Copper products.
Can you explain the First Gen and Second Gen products and even for a 'veteran' customer, what should I be using both regularly and occasionally. Also is Lactic 10 most appropriate or should I switch off once in a while.
I thought I had this down but now that the new First Gen GHK cream appeared, I am confused.
Thanks for joining in - Great questions!
Many of these answers should help others use copper peptides to their optimal potential.
1. Proper exfoliation will depend on a number of factors such as the individual's skin sensitivity, skin area, and skin concern. For example, those with sensitive may only be able to use extremely gentle skin exfoliants or none at all (they may just have to rely on their own skin's natural loss of dead skin cells). Certain areas, such as the eye area, do not require much exfoliation at all due to skin thinness. Whereas other concerns, such as scar tissue (keloid/raised scars/blemishes on the body) etc, may be able to handle more aggressive methods of exfoliation such as chemical peels, etc...
So really it just depends. For the vast majority of clients working on addressing anti-aging concerns, our mild leave-on hydroxy acids are perfect for every day use. So unless you have very sensitive skin, you can definitely continue to use Lactic Power 10, LacSal, or Exfol on a daily basis. That is what they are designed for.
2. Actually we used to recommend clients look into one of Jan Marini's sunscreen products. So that's fine.
The best regimens for aging skin that is a bit dry are outlined at:
You'll find some great tips on these pages!
3. Over-exfoliating is a good thing to avoid. Signs of overuse are dryness, redness, tightness, fine lines, or crepey skin. Carefully monitor your skin's reaction and rest from strong peels an adequate amount of time.
Typically hydroxy acids (alpha and/or beta hydroxy mixes) work exceptionally well.
Copper Peptide Generations
You'll find an in depth explanation at
Background of the new 3% GHK VIP Luxury Cream: What began as Dr. Pickart's personal cream has now started a frenzy among clients wanting to own and use this high-end peptide product for themselves.
What is different about this cream? The new 3% GHK VIP Luxury Cream is basically an enhanced copper-peptide comprehensive anti-aging cream. This is a high level, all over product that can be used on the general facial area, around eyes, neck and decolletage. Anti-aging is its primary focus. The formulation is extremely rich and moisturizing. We've never had a formula so luxuriant and thick.
What is the difference between 1st Generation Copper-Peptides (GHK) and 2nd Generation Copper-Peptides? GHK has a number of properties that it seems science is continuing to discover. However, it is more fragile than the balance of Dr. Pickart's products which contain 2nd Generation copper-peptides. Second Generation copper-peptides (such as Skin Signals, TriReduction Cream, Super Cop etc.) are more breakdown resistant. Depending on the type of rejuvenation required (especially if a client needs to use a product that is compatible with hydroxy acids to help break down extensive damage), 2nd Generation products have been very successful in producing results.
Note: Many clients have started using the 3% GHK Cream in the morning and still use 2nd Generation products (such as Skin Signals, TriReduction, or Super Cop) at night with very good results. This would be the best of both worlds.
The advanced level of 3% of the original GHK raw product contained in this new cream will make it a surpassing choice for most skin concerns.
It should be noted that the 3% concentration makes the product extremely active. Starting with light, every other day applications may be best when using the Luxury Cream.
For whom would 3% GHK VIP Luxury Cream be the best choice? The new Luxury GHK Cream is going to be of particular interest to you if you fall into one or more of the following categories:
- Clients who have been using the 1% Super GHK-Copper products successfully and are looking to further improve their results
- Those looking for an all-over high-end skin rejuvenation product that can be used on the entire face (eyes, neck, decolletage, etc)
- Individuals looking for advanced moisturization to address general anti-aging concerns
- Clients who are specifically interested in the research of GHK and prefer to use a product with the highest GHK concentration available
thank you so much for addressing all my concerns in such as wonderful detailed way. I am digesting that information now.
1. What is your most asked skin care question?
What is your best product, regime for crepy eyelid skin? After reading above, I am considering the VIP cream that everybody is raving about. Currently using night eyes, two time tightener and emu oil. Sometimes I mix a stronger cp product with emu oil or squalane and place directly on the lid.
2. How would you describe your skin? I am 44 and have been told I look much younger. Aside from my eyelids, no wrinkle complaints. My facial skin has a faint amount of leftover melasma that I am currently treating with super cp serum and sunscreen in the mornings and lactic power ten evenings. I wash with a Clairsonic brush and Dr Bronners baby formula. Once and a while I use some hydroquinone on the cheeks. I have one "blank" spot where I had a skin tag removed, that is difficult to conceal.
3. What is your best home, DIY (do-it-yourself) tip for excellent skin care? I repeat the emu oil around my eyes several time a day, excellent diet and plenty of exercise. I stay away from harsh skin products and chemical sunscreens and I wear just enough mineral makeup to enhance my features, very little around the eye area.
Thank you for joining us - Your tips on skin care (especially on makeup and a healthy diet/exercise) are wonderful!
For the delicate around-the-eye area we recommend using mild copper peptide products fortified with antioxidants and gentle lipids for effective and natural moisturization.
Your use of a biological oil and the DMAE in Two Timing Tightener will be quite effective over the long term.
You could use the new 3% GHK VIP Luxury Cream in this area, especially if you've been using our CP Ultimate Eye Cream for quite some time and are looking to boost your results.
Of course the new Luxury Cream is quite potent. So if this area is a bit sensitive for you, after first using CP Ultimate Eyes you might want to alternate into your regimen a light amount of Skin Signals Cream perhaps every other day (or 2-3x a week) and see how your skin responds.
Just found this site and have ordered some products but should probably have waited for some advice.
1. My most asked skin care question: I have redness on my face, although it is not my main issue now due to improved diet and skin care. Based on the redness, I would say I have sensitive skin. But, I also have aging skin. I'm always conflicted about how to choose which one is most pertinent when completing skin product surveys and have to make a choice.
2. How would you describe your skin: I am age 64, female, with sun damage skin, sagging, wrinkling (not too bad) and and tendency to redness.
3. Best DIY skin care: I take Fernblock (internal) and apply sunscreen to protect against further sun damage.This message has been edited. Last edited by: SkinBioTeam,
WELCOME - Great to have you with us!
As you explore the chat forum along with our product information site, we're sure you will find effective answers to your questions.
Perhaps others will chime in with what has personally worked for them...
In the meantime, we'd be happy to address your questions:
1. Sensitive Aging Skin: For those who find themselves in this category it is always a challenge because the best anti-aging skin care (topicals that will actually work) will be a little bit stronger than generic skin care products. However, the key to success with sensitive skin is respecting how far you can push things without causing irritation or an inflammatory response. Less Is More / A slower approach always seems to work out better in the long run.
So we would say to use the "stair-step" process: Start with a milder product first (such as Super GHK Copper Cream) and then very gradually work up to a stronger product (such as Skin Signals Cream).
Use only one copper peptide product at a time. Test on a small area first. Contact us for assistance along the way / 1-800-405-1912
2. The description of your skin will definitely benefit from copper peptide use. For the sun damaged areas, spot treat with copper peptides. In fact, the products being green in color may help dissipate the "tendency to redness" you have. And for the areas of loose skin and wrinkles, gradually work up to Skin Signals Cream, applied extremely lightly only once a day.
3. We'd love for you to keep in touch on how your topical regimen works with your internal antioxidant supplements!
We all look forward to hearing back from you!
Thank you very much. I am learning lots on this site. Your reply finally helped me understand the skin sensitive issue versus aging skin.
I forgot to mention that I also take in pill form Skin Restoring Phytoceramides with Lipowheat. I ran out once and my scaly skin returned which is most pronounced on legs. When I resumed taking the product, the dryness went away.
You're most welcome!
Stay "tuned" for future lessons in the Intelligent Skin Care Online Course which further address how to work on healthy skin from the inside out.
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