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Location: ny
Registered: 17 September 2004
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Does Skin Biology have plans to devolop a product specifically for eyelash and brow regrowth? I notice a product on the market called Rapid Lash contains copper peptides: Here's ingredients: Ingredients: Water (Aqua), Rhizobian Gum, Sodium Hyaluronate, Butylene Glycol, Hydroxyethylcellulose, Biotin, Panthenol, Pantethine, Hydrolyzed Glycosaminoglycans, Allantoin, Cucurbita, Pepo (Pumpkin) Seed Extract, Sea Water, Dipotassium, Glycyrrizate, Alcohol Denat (and) Isopropyl Cloprostenate, Octapeptide-2, Copper Tripeptide-1, Glycerin, Glycine Soja (Soybean Oil), Phosphatidylcholine, Polypeptide-23, Phenoxyethylene, Chlorphenisen, Sorbic Acid.

Has anyone tried this product? Do the ingredients sound safe? This product is NOT one of the other recent products based on a glaucoma medication.
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Location: Skin Biology in Bellevue, Washington - USA
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Dear Annie:

For years clients have reported great results when using Folligen Cream on their eyebrows and eyelashes.

We recommend Folligen Cream be applied very lightly on the eyebrows or to the eyelash bed once a day or every other day.

See the following link for additional information - Click on the "Results" tab to read testimonials from clients:
How to Make Eyelashes Longer and Help Eyebrow Loss with Copper-Peptides

Best Wishes,
-Skin Biology
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Location: Skin Biology
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The real question is whether they have any evidence their system increases hair growth.

Just mixing things up rarely works.
Location: California
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Dr. Pickart,

I use the Folligen Cream on my eyelash's and it has made them thicker and longer. Can I use the Hair Signals in the same manner?
TW
Location: Denton
Registered: 18 June 2009
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I wanted to jump in and tell you my experience with Hair Signals: It has worked so great for my eye lashes! Part of my success may be due to my age--25. It took just four days for me to notice results! Even if I were much older I could still imagine this product working--it might take longer than a few days but I would put my money on Hair Signals eventually working for any age group. I also do limited facial exercises strictly for maintenance, so my eyelids may also be benefiting from the increase in overall growth hormones. I sound like a nerd lol!
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TW !! Thank you for your response. I use the Folligen on my eyelash's (upper and lower) in the morning. At night I use MD Lash Factor, but find that the MD Lash Factor helps only in length but not strength or thickness. Folligen improves strength & thickness. I recently ordered the Hair Signals for my hairline and was wondering if I could use it on lash's too. Kill 2 birds with one stone...
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This was also found for minoxidil. Minoxidil increases the growth of thin hairs, then Folligen thickens the hairs.
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Dr Pickart, I'm using Folligen for my eyebrows and have always avoided anything with minoxidil simply because from all my reading, besides the fact that hair you grow with minoxidil is usually thinner than the hair you lost (a problem you seem to address with Folligen), one has to use minoxidil forever because the minute you stop, the hair you grew with it falls out.

So how does that work when Folligen is included in the regimen? Can one ever get to a point where they can stop using the products, including the minoxidil, and not lose the hair they grew?
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Folligen increases the size of hair follicles. This produces larger diameter hair shafts.
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Hi Dr Pickart:

I already gathered that Folligen thicken hair strands, which is why I said it addresses the issue of minoxidil growing thin hair. My question, however, was whether one has to continue with this regimen (minoxidil plus Folligen) for life to keep the hair grown in. It's a known fact that minoxidil has to be used for life otherwise the hair you grow in with it will fall off if you stop using it. So my question is, does this still apply when using Folligen? In other words, besides thickening hair strands, does Folligen affect the permanence of hair grown in by minoxidil or does one still have to use minoxidil (and Folligen) for life in order to keep the thickened strands?
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No you do not have to always use the products.

But the basic problem is aging with slows tissue regeneration, and in time, reduces hair follicle size and hair thickness.
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OK, it's about six months since I started using Folligen on my eyebrows (with Emu at night; and w/o emu if used during the day--I say if because I mostly used it at night since Dr Pickart assured me that was OK and sufficient). Well, I don't really think my eyebrows filled up. Maybe the hairs got thicker but I think they look more sparse than they did in June 2008. Problem is, I don't know what I was doing then? I have used Castor oil as well as the essential oil blend I used to grow back hair on my scalp that I had lost. Back then I wasn't really being dedicated to either program which is why I don't know which product to attribute that success to.



Not sure what I'm going to do now but I'm open to suggestions, Dr Pickart, as long as they don't involve minoxidil. I may go back to my previous "treatments", or use them with Folligen. What do you think Dr Pickart?

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I have used Castor oil as well as the essential oil blend I used to grow back hair on my scalp that I had lost.


N'nie, Wow...did you actually grow back all of your lost hair? I, MrClean, can really use the castor oil or essential oil blend that helped you regrow your scalp hair. Can you please tell me all the details about your regimen?

Btw, were you visibly bald on the part of the scalp that grew hair back? and was it female pattern baldness?
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N'nie, Wow...did you actually grow back all of your lost hair? I, MrClean, can really use the castor oil or essential oil blend that helped you regrow your scalp hair. Can you please tell me all the details about your regimen?

Btw, were you visibly bald on the part of the scalp that grew hair back? and was it female pattern baldness?


I had alopecia aereta and I did indeed have at least two spots that were clearly bald and very smooth and they filled in completely. What pleased me the most about that remedy is once the hair grew in, I didn't have to keep using it. I discovered my bald spots in December of 2003 and by September of 2004, I not only had the spots filled but also the hair was growing in length. I only documented my progress on one of the spots the one that was the larger of the two. I share my progress photos in another thread in this forum where the blend is mentioned and I'll give you the link to that shortly. Anyway, below is the concoction I used:

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Essential Oil Blend for Hair Growth

1. Thyme essential oil - 2 drops
2. Atlas cedarwood essential oil - 2 drops
3. Lavender essential oil -3 drops
4. Rosemary essential oil -3 drops
5. Jojoba oil - ½ teaspoon
6. Grapeseed oil - 4 teaspoons

Add the first four ingredients into a small glass jar. Mix well. Now add the remaining two ingredients. Mix thoroughly.

Massage this mixture into your scalp for at least two minutes every night. Wrap your head in a warm towel after treatment.

Dermatologists at Aberdeen Royal Infirmary in Scotland gave 43 people, suffering from a rare autoimmune disorder that causes patchy hair loss, the essential oil blend described above and asked them to rub it into their scalps daily. After seven months, 19 regrew as much as half of their hair, while a few regrew almost all of their hair back. The study was reported in the November/December 1999 issue of Health magazine. The researchers speculated that this remedy may also help other types of balding, including midlife thinning for men.
Source: http://www.holisticonline.com/...oss_aromatherapy.htm

My photos are here: http://healthyskin.infopop.cc/...0018252/m/9170088235
Location: NYC
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N'nie, Wow...I'm glad that you got your hair back! I'd definitely give this a try soon, btw you also mentioned castor oil? did you use that as well?
Location: Virginia
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N'nie, Wow...I'm glad that you got your hair back! I'd definitely give this a try soon, btw you also mentioned castor oil? did you use that as well?


No, I did not use Castor oil on my scalp. I never have. And particularly when trying a treatment, I try to just stick to one thing (ie the treatment at hand) so as to get a clear indication of whether it's working or not. I'm always afraid that doing too many things at once could cancel out any positive effects I might have otherwise had.

When I mention the Castor oil, it was w/r/t my eyebrows. I have friends who swore it made their eyebrows thicken up so I tried it too on my eyebrows. I wonder if using it with Folligen on my eyebrows would be a good idea.... I will wait to hear from Dr Pickart on that.

I would like to mention about the scalp treatment that because I hate doing laundry and I didn't want a towel soaked in oil, instead of wrapping my head with a towel, I wore a plastic cap. I believe the heat from the cap was just as good as that I'd get from a towel. And yes, I slept with the product in my hair and plastic cap, and washed my hair in the morning. Because my hair is naturally dry so oily hair isn't something that would be a problem, sometimes I didn't wash it off but left it on till next application. But several places where I've seen the blend, the directions are to wash off in the morning. Here's another site with the blend and directions:

http://regrow-hair.org/2007/02/ (Article is at the bottom of the page)
Location: usa
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Dr. Pickart,

I use the Folligen Cream on my eyelash's and it has made them thicker and longer. Can I use the Hair Signals in the same manner?

How do you apply the cream to your eyelashes? it is so messy and i use a cotton swab and some of it ends up on my eyeball. Do you use it for both upper and lower eyelashes? How long does it take before you see results?
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Location: Skin Biology in Bellevue, Washington - USA
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Dear marivicw:

You may want to review our page at:
Help for Eyelashes and Eyebrows

Folligen Cream was really developed for use on the scalp. However with time, clients started using it on the eyelashes and eyebrows normally reporting an improvement in growth within about 2-4 weeks of use.

Apply a very light amount on the eyelash bed (similar to applying eyeliner). It can be applied on both the upper and lower eyelashes. The amount applied should be very, very light so that it barely covers the area.

Some use a little applicator, but most use just a clean index finger and apply a half-pea sized amount on the back of the hand. With the index finger run an extremely light amount on both the top and bottom eyelash bed.

If you have sensitive skin be sure to test on a small area first.

Best Wishes,
-Skin Biology
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