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Location: New York
Registered: 06 October 2008
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So I've been on a long and exhausting search for the ideal sunscreen and there seems to be a lot of controversy with all these ingredients. It is SO hard to find a suncreen!
I am interested in a sunscreen that is on the SB approval list, Canova SPF 30, BUT its impossible to find in the US Frowner
My question is, has Skin Biology ever considered creating a sunscreen? I will not give up my CP's and its incredibly hard to find something CP-friendly and non-carcinogenic. I bet there is high demand for a SB Suncreen within your clientele. Anyone else agree with this?
Even if Skin Biology became a distributor for a sunscreen I would purchase it knowing that it is Skin Biology approved. You're a very trustworthy brand, i hope to see a trustworthy sunscreen in your line in the near future.
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We would like to do this but the FDA requirements are very expensive.

I have talked with sunscreen companies but they don't want to try anything that is not pre-approved by the FDA.

Europe has different regulations on sunscreens and, in general, has more advanced sun protection creams.
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Maybe we should create a donation for this! Smiler
I'm all about my sunscreen (aside from my CP's of course).
I would definitely donate to meet FDA requirement in creating an ideal sunscreen. This will only work if many contribute though.
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We don't plan to approach this for some time. Skin Biology is focused on improving the products that we have.

The FDA considers all sun protectants as drugs and requires extremely expensive studies. The costs of such studies could easily exceed $100 million.
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Eeker oh

Well in that case when I go to Europe I'll just have to bring extra luggage and stock up on a decent sunscreen. Razzer
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Sunblocks in Europe are more advanced. The EU regulatory approval for them is easier.
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Have you ever tried Lavera natural sunscreen made in Germany? I love this one. I buy the one in a spray and it just absorbs really nicely with no greasy afterfeel. I buy mine in a natural health food store here, or you can buy over the internet.

http://www.lavera.com/products...6_oz-83-1000014.html

Ingredients Listing
Water
Glycine Soja Oil*
Grain Alcohol*
Caprylic Triglyceride
Glycerin
Lysolecithin
Sodium Lactate
Sunflower Seed Oil*
Licorice Root Extract
Evening Primrose Oil*
Sea Buckthorn Extract*
Xanthan Gum
Hydrogenated Palm Glycerides
Hydrogenated Lecithin
Betaglucan
Vitamin E
Rapeseed Oils
Alumina
Vitamin C
Stearic Acid.

Natural Oils:
FREE FROM ESSENTIAL OILS


Natural Mineral:
Coated Titanium Dioxide
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It looks good.
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Dr. Pickart,

Can you give a list of suncreens that you approve of?

I tried DayCover, but burned. My skin just needs more protection. I also can't use scents of any kind on my skin. (I guess you would say "sensitive"??) Embarrased

I need to get something, especially now that solstice is here.

Thank you.
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I have two grandmothers whose parents were from Denmark. I burn easily - like in 20 minutes, especially when on my boat in the summer.

Now I use the Suntan lotion when I go out, and after I return, I use the Body lotion. Now, I don't burn at all.

I don't know of this approach will work for everyone but it works for me.

Generally, sunblocks with titanium, iron, or aluminum salts are the best.
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Are the euro sunblocks like Anthelios any good? I never heard of iron or aluminum in sunscreen.

The zinc or titanium sunscreens I have used are so gloppy, that that give me milia. Frowner

This is a confusing area to me, because for some of us sun damage is a real issue.
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Location: Skin Biology in Bellevue, Washington - USA
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Originally posted by Annick:
Dr. Pickart,

Can you give a list of suncreens that you approve of?

Thank you.


Dear Annick:

Please see our " Sunscreen Options " page at:
http://reverseskinaging.com/sunlight6.html

Best Wishes,
-Skin Bio Team
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So anthelios gets a thumbs down?
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Read http://thegreenbeautyguide.com/?p=85 for some other ideas on this.
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Dr. Pickart,

Thank you for that. Eeker

I'm thinking of ordering Petite Marie sunscreen from that site. Does that cut it? (I really hate thick, gooey sunscreen.)
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Petite Marie sunscreen


The invisible zinc oxide in the Petite Marie sunscreen is probably micronized and will penetrate into your skin.

Safe zinc oxide is pasty - never invisible.
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What about NIA24 Sun Damage Prevention 100% Mineral Sunscreen SPF 30?

Active Ingredients: Titanium Dioxide 9.45%, Zinc Oxide 3.6%
Inactive Ingredients: Cyclomethicone, Water, Octyldodecyl, Neopentanoate, Myristyl Nicotinate, Zea Mays (Corn) Starch, Stearic Acid, Polyglyceryl-3 Polydimethylsiloxyethyl Dimethicone, Neopentyl Glycol Diheptanoate, PEG/PPG-18/18 Dimethicone, PEG-12 Dimethicone, Tocopheryl Acetate, Myristica Fragrans (Nutmeg) Kernel Extract, Caprylyl Glycol, Methicone, Benzotriazolyl Dodecyl p-Cresol, Cetyl Alcohol, PEG-10 Dimethicone, Bisabolol, Aluminum Hydroxide, Disodium EDTA, 1,5,5,9-Tetramethyl-13-Oxatricyclotridecane, Maltol, Pentadecalactone, Dimethiconol, Polysilicone-11, Methyldihydrojasmonate, Phenoxyethanol, Citronellol, Eugenol, Geraniol, Isoeugenol, Limoene, Linalool.

I tried a sample of this, and I liked the consistency, but not sure about all the ingredients?
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I hate all the stuff in these sunscreens. It drives me crazy.

Dr. Pickart, what is the coverage in the suntan lotion? I ordered the Petite Marie, and that may have been another wasted purchase. I really cannot stand that thick, white paste in the physical sunscreens, and I can't seem to find anything acceptable.

This area is very frustrating. I know that I have to use something, because I burn, but how do I choose between goo and milia, and chemicals that block the sun and feel nice, but apparently do damage?

Do I just stay in my hut and take vitamin D? Crying
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The problem is there is "No free lunch" with regard to some protectants. Good protectants are opaque regardless of claims by the Cosmetic Cartel.

On the other hand, the dangers of UV light have been overdone. Our ancestors went over 1.1 million years without hair (based on genetic estimates) before starting to wear clothes 75,000 years ago (based on when lice arrived on humans).

A sunblock with an SPF of 8 is about as good as one of SPF 50 in actual tests.

The best sunblocks are prepared from minerals that are pure and not micronized.
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Originally posted by csamples58:
What about NIA24 Sun Damage Prevention 100% Mineral Sunscreen SPF 30?

Active Ingredients: Titanium Dioxide 9.45%, Zinc Oxide 3.6%
Inactive Ingredients: Cyclomethicone, Water, Octyldodecyl, Neopentanoate, Myristyl Nicotinate, Zea Mays (Corn) Starch, Stearic Acid, Polyglyceryl-3 Polydimethylsiloxyethyl Dimethicone, Neopentyl Glycol Diheptanoate, PEG/PPG-18/18 Dimethicone, PEG-12 Dimethicone, Tocopheryl Acetate, Myristica Fragrans (Nutmeg) Kernel Extract, Caprylyl Glycol, Methicone, Benzotriazolyl Dodecyl p-Cresol, Cetyl Alcohol, PEG-10 Dimethicone, Bisabolol, Aluminum Hydroxide, Disodium EDTA, 1,5,5,9-Tetramethyl-13-Oxatricyclotridecane, Maltol, Pentadecalactone, Dimethiconol, Polysilicone-11, Methyldihydrojasmonate, Phenoxyethanol, Citronellol, Eugenol, Geraniol, Isoeugenol, Limoene, Linalool.

I tried a sample of this, and I liked the consistency, but not sure about all the ingredients?


This looks pretty good. The zinc may interfere with the rebuilding by copper peptides. But if you apply a copper peptide product afterward, the copper should replace excess zinc.
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